At-Home Dental Filling Removal Takes A Long, Long Time

Today I worked on the canine tooth filling for the first time.  I bought the drill bits months and months ago, but haven’t used them yet.  I am holding the drill bit in my hand and just scraping it against the dental filling instead of using an electric drill.

Why?

In 2008 I went to the dentist to get him to take out my silver-mercury amalgam filling in the molar, and replace it with a plastic one.  He did that, and he also filled a second cavity in my canine tooth.  I wish I hadn’t done the canine tooth – I didn’t even know I had a cavity there, and now that I know what I know, I am confident enough to leave cavities alone and heal them by changing my diet.

I am testing this, and I notice that some of my teeth on the left side are painful when I’m eating a bad diet, and the pain goes away when I’m eating healthy foods.  After a week of eating healthier foods, I already notice that I can eat sweets with the painful teeth on the left side, and the pain is gone.  I’ve had those slightly painful teeth there for a long time, but the dentist didn’t see any cavities there.  Teeth don’t completely heal themselves, but they do absorb minerals from the saliva (according to Weston Price).  The dentist himself told me that teeth try to remineralize, but he acted like this was insignificant and like it could not possibly heal a cavity.

Teeth can absorb minerals into demineralized areas.  They can also close off the pulp chamber, the inner part of the tooth, by forming new secondary dentin between the pulp and the outside, if the tooth is worn down or decayed close to the root.  But it can only do this if you are eating a healthy diet. Cavities will stop decaying and stop hurting, but they will not fully grow back the part of the tooth that has been destroyed.

Back when I got those two plastic fillings, I didn’t know for sure that self-healing cavities were real.  I had read about it but wasn’t sure I believed it.  However, I’ve experienced changes in my tooth pain, as I said above.  After studying and reading about this, I believe it now.  But I had the canine cavity filled because back then, I wasn’t sure whether it really could fix itself.

So anyway, after I got those fillings, I had terrible headaches for a couple days, and then extreme mood swings, as though I had really, really bad PMS.  I was crying and irritable and angry, arguing with my co-workers.  They probably didn’t notice, because I didn’t actually cry at work, but I noticed it myself.  Then I started having terrible breast pain.  I had breast pain like that when I was a teenager and I had a plastic retainer in my mouth after my braces were taken off.  When I was done with the retainer, the breast pain went away and never came back… until I got the new plastic fillings.  Now I have it all the time, a little bit, and it gets worse if I have any St. John’s Wort.  St. John’s Wort never gave me breast pain before, but now every time I am exposed to SJW at all I get the pain for a day or two.

Not only that, but the right side of my face is always a little bit swollen now.  Often, the right sinus is closed, but the left sinus is still open and I can breathe through it.  Something at McDonald’s triggered my face to get swollen really badly one night – although I saw some other guy with a similar swollen eye, so it might have been a contagious virus – and the next day my right eye was all swollen shut.  The swelling seems to happen whenever I handle lots and lots of french fries.  It happened after a night of working at College Avenue where all I did was french fries for the entire night.  You have to touch a lot of french fry grease and salt, and it goes through your skin.  The salt contains iodine, so it could be excessive iodine causing the problem, or the salt itself, or some other additive in the salt, or the grease – I can’t tell which thing causes the problem. Every time I handle lots of french fries, my face is swollen the next morning, but it’s worst on the right side where the fillings are.

(Salt additives are horrible.  I’m used to eating sea salt because it doesn’t have additives.  But at Peter’s house one night, I tasted a pinch of his regular table salt, and it was all bitter and disgusting because of the anticaking agents.  I researched them and found out that in the USA, we’re lucky:  our salt contains sodium aluminosilicate.  That’s bad, but not as bad as European table salt.  European table salt contains sodium ferrocyanide.  When sodium ferrocyanide reacts with acid, such as the hydrochloric acid in your stomach, it releases cyanide gas.  Normal people might tolerate this, but a chemical sensitive person would have a hard time with it.  Iodine is another additive that can be a problem.  It’s supposed to help people prevent cretinism in areas where the soil contains very little iodine, but you can also get too much iodine, especially when you have large amounts of iodized salt from all different sources in your food.  You have to be allowed to choose whether or not you want salt that contains iodine.  So I choose sea salt.)

I also have to mention that I have had more problems with erectile tissue dysfunction.  This would be more noticeable in men than in women.  If you get new plastic dental fillings and suddenly have erectile dysfunction, the fillings are what caused it.  Peter temporarily had a plastic catheter inserted into his chest for dialysis, and during that time period, he had erectile dysfunction very badly and it got much better after the catheter was taken out.  ED is very common and people need to know what’s causing it instead of just taking another pill for it.  It’s caused by drugs and plastic and other things.  Supposedly it can also be caused by high blood pressure, but I would want to know what caused the high blood pressure in the first place.  So I noticed this symptom happening a lot more after getting those dental fillings.

I won’t know for sure until they are completely removed from my mouth and all traces of the plastic taken out of the tooth.  It will be difficult to get every last bit of plastic out.  I will have to scrape the edges of the cavity holes even if it slightly wears down my real tooth dentin.

I want to remove the fillings completely before having children.  Bisphenol-A is said to cause deformities in babies, such as genital abnormalities.  I don’t want to know what else it might do.  I just want to get rid of the fillings.  I will sacrifice my own two teeth for the babies.  There are only two filled cavities in my mouth – I am very lucky.  I would not want to be someone who has cavities filled in every tooth and then decides that bisphenol-A is giving them a bad reaction and they want all their fillings taken out.

When I feel any hesitation about this, I think about being pregnant, and how badly the fillings affect my own body – so what would they do to a developing embryo?  BPA might permanently change the baby’s entire body in ways that could never be undone.  I can sacrifice two teeth to prevent that.

So I am using this diamond burr drill bit which was meant for arts and crafts use.  It’s small enough to fit.  It’s part of a set of differently shaped bits.  I bought them on the internet.

This is only experimental, and I’m learning.  I spent about an hour gently scraping at the canine tooth filling.  I am using a lighted dental mirror.  It has this weird purple glow.  It’s not very bright.  It’s hard to see the difference between the tooth-colored filling and the tooth itself, but I can see it if I look from the right angle.  So far, all I’ve done is made the dental filling’s outer surface a little bit rougher, so that I can feel the roughness with my tongue.

I am trying not to spread the pulverized dental filling around in my mouth.  I’ve been trying to dab the tooth with a bit of sugarfree chewing gum, hoping to stick the particles of the filling to the gum.  But the gum is not very sticky.  I was dismayed when I went shopping for gum and I read on the front of one of the packages that it was specifically designed NOT to stick to your dental fillings!  I have spread a little bit of pulverized material in my mouth – I felt a sharp tiny splinter on my tongue, and I feel a strange stinging sensation on that side of my mouth.

I kept hitting the full-length mirror with the handle of the dental mirror – they bumped into each other, and the full-length mirror kept swinging back and forth because of the way I have it hung up.  It’s only hung up on a string hooked over a hook on the door, so it won’t stay still.  So I was trying to watch what I was doing, on the back of my tooth, in this eerie purple light, while the mirror kept getting bumped and swinging back and forth.  And everything is backwards in the mirror.  So when I moved the drill bit, it did the opposite of what I thought I was doing.  It was hardest for me to figure out forwards and backwards, towards and away from me.  I have to put it at the proper angle and then gently scrape, while also paying attention to the noise of the scraping so that I know I’m scraping filling instead of real tooth enamel.

A couple times, I looked at the drill bit and saw some white stuff on it that had been scraped off.  But I am doing it very slowly and carefully, so there was hardly anything at all.

I asked the dentist if he would remove my fillings and leave nothing, just empty unfilled cavities.  He told me he couldn’t do that because that would be unethical.  I didn’t say this out loud, but I thought:  So it’s unethical to remove a poisonous substance from someone’s mouth, but it’s ethical to put poisonous substances in there in the first place?  He doesn’t have faith in teeth’s ability to heal themselves, because he hasn’t been taught about proper nutrition.  Dentists believe that toothbrushing is the only way to prevent cavities.  In primitive societies where they don’t have sugar and flour, they also don’t brush their teeth at all, and they have zero cavities.  I haven’t been brushing my teeth at all, as an experiment, and there is one thing that does happen:  I am noticing some swollen gums that bleed easily, so it seems to be true that plaque causes gingivitis.  But plaque does not cause cavities.  And I haven’t switched to a completely healthy diet.  I am only eating a ‘slightly better diet’ compared to the way I had been eating.  So hopefully the swollen gums will go away if I keep improving my diet.

I am going to try dyeing the tooth filling with red food coloring to see if it will be visible in contrast to the tooth enamel.  Old fillings from years ago were able to get stained by certain foods, but the newer fillings are designed to not stain easily.  So I expect that this won’t work.  But I will try.

Anyway, no real progress, just practice, and a slightly roughened outer surface of the filling.  That’s all.

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16 Responses to “At-Home Dental Filling Removal Takes A Long, Long Time”

  1. tys Says:

    nutter

  2. retmeishka Says:

    I don’t have an official policy on what to do about random hostile comments yet.

  3. Shakaama Live Says:

    my question is, since most don’t have dental insurance, how much was it to have the dentist remove the fillings? and was he resistant to doing that?

    I suffer from high blood pressure, there is no history in my entire family, and I know it’s from these horrible fillings. I’d have to pay cash though.

  4. Nicole Says:

    How many fillings do you have and what kind are they?

    Originally, I had only one filling. It was in a molar, in the back. That was the silver mercury amalgam one which I wanted to have removed. But I didn’t just get that one filling removed, I also got a new (plastic) filling in a tooth that I didn’t know had a cavity, because back then, I BELIEVED the dentist when he told me that I had a new, unknown cavity that needed to be drilled and filled, urgently, this very instant, otherwise I would need a root canal. (I don’t believe that anymore. There is no urgent need to fill a cavity this very instant, especially if the cavity is painless and you don’t even know it exists.) So my cost was a little higher than it would have been, and if I recall, it was something like $300. I made a partial payment of that amount. I did not pay the rest of it. That money is now among the couple of unpaid debts that I have. I have a couple of unpaid medical bills, the dentist bill, and some leftover credit card debt which I have never finished paying off, as the last few years of my life have been such a mess that I can barely manage to even pay my rent.

    The dentist didn’t resist removing the amalgam filling and replacing it with a resin composite filling. However, he DID resist me when I asked him, later on – I think I sent him an email, if I recall – if he could please remove both of the resin composite fillings (because of all the problems they are causing, such as breast pain, swollen face, swollen eye, hot flashes like menopause, and hormonal mood swings), and just leave my teeth with open cavities that I would take care of myself. He said it would be ‘unethical’ to leave me with open cavities, and he refused to do that.

    Most people are still trying to pay their debts and keep a good credit record, but I totally gave up on that and have just been floundering along for a few years with unpaid debts, and if I ever needed to borrow money, I probably wouldn’t be able to. So, in a way, just not paying it is an option, but it’s an option with consequences that people don’t want. I don’t recommend doing that. I still would want to pay off my debts because I’m not really committed to the idea of not paying them.

    I’m sorry to hear that you are having problems with high blood pressure.

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  6. ingupo Says:

    How about before removing fillings you say that you agree and will fill them again with another material, but when the dentist has finished the filling removal, just say that you don’t feel well and ask if you can continue with re-filling tomorrow and never come back again. Or just cut the cr*p and say that you’ve changed your mind and don’t want new fillings and leave. I don’t think he can force you to stay, chain you and fill them up or sue you :D This is serious and in that kind of case you could afford to be a little rude, after all, you don’t have to come back ever again :)
    I have 4 silver fillings and I’m trying to figure out how to get them fall out by them selves. I’ve heard that raw vegan diet causes cavities to flip out. Also some of my cavities have like rough edge where I could grab on to and pull them out. In that way the cavity wouldn’t be scraped upon or damaged so nothing would cause vapour to come out. It would be as If it would’ve fell out. But I’m supper scared to do that after all the information about mercury dangers.
    Also oil pulling might help to regrow mpty tooth when filling has been removed. I would add some tea tree essential oil, birch essential oil and others to base oil when pulling, it might help strengthen the effect.

  7. Nicole Says:

    You’re right, actually, and this is a real possibility. Just getting up and leaving after the fillings have been taken out. I wonder, would he remove both fillings one after the other, and then fill them one after the other? Or would he remove a filling, refill it, and then remove the next one, and then refill it? I’d have to leave before any of them were refilled. I don’t know if I would have enough social courage to ‘break the rules’ and behave that way, though – I’m usually very meek. If I get into the dentist’s chair, I’m probably going to inevitably obey the dentist’s norms. But I like the idea though.

    I’ve heard of oil pulling before and have briefly read about it, but don’t know much at all about it.

    I suspect that it might not be too horribly dangerous to get a small amount of mercury exposure whenever the fillings are removed, and the reason I say that is because whenever I got my metal filling removed, the dentist didn’t do any of the precautions that they say you’re supposed to do to protect against mercury exposure. I didn’t feel well after I got the new fillings, but it seemed to be mostly because of the plastic. However, you will still feel anxious about it, and so would it, and I know that I will feel anxious about it whenever the time comes that I get the drill and get ready to do this thing myself. (Unless I decide to use the ‘get up and leave’ tactic you described.) I think that I still have a little bit of a metal filling underneath the new plastic one, so I would be drilling into that little leftover bit, causing mercury exposure.

    I don’t know, talking about it is different from actually doing it. I don’t know how I will feel when it’s time to do it for real.

    Good luck with yours, whatever you decide to do. I totally sympathize with the need to get them out.

  8. Joy Says:

    “the dentist when he told me that I had a new, unknown cavity that needed to be drilled and filled, urgently, this very instant, otherwise I would need a root canal. (I don’t believe that anymore. There is no urgent need to fill a cavity this very instant, especially if the cavity is painless and you don’t even know it exists.)” Nicole

    EXACTLY the same thing happened to me!

    Today my friend told me that she had removed a filling herself, and in 3 years her tooth has totally healed itself.

  9. Nicole Says:

    This is reassuring to hear, thank you for telling me about it. I always want to know if other people have already done something that I’m planning to do but am a little bit scared to do. I actually have a (new) cavity right now which I am leaving open and just observing. I can feel changes in it from day to day depending on what I eat. It hurts if I am drinking lots of coffee, and it gets worse if I am drinking Coke. I don’t usually drink Coke, but I was drinking a lot of it temporarily. So I am still going to go through with removing them. I’ve had to postpone it so I could do some other projects first.

  10. Rocco Says:

    It’s been a whole year now, so you’ve probably got the filling removed. But here’s another option: tell the dentist that you need to remove your plastic filling and replace it with a temp filling until you decide/can afford a more inert material.

    Did you manage to remove the filling yourself?

    If I was in charge in life, dentistry would be binned as a profession. It’s only caused me grief. I had a mercury filling replaced with a temporary filling. All major health issues dissolved. A year passed and I decided to listen to friends and dentists advice to get a composite filling. All major health issues reappeared. Plastics are just as bad as the mercury is, at least in my experience.

    So I plan on removing this filling. How will I keep my tooth alive, however? That’s a concern. But it’s better to risk losing the tooth than to always be sick.

    Is there some kind of calcium phosphate mixture I can use to help remineralise the tooth, and that can be used as a temp filling in the meantime? That would be great.

    Or else, I’ll have to just eat well and keep the cavity clean. Which can make life somewhat boring, but what other options are there? Of coarse, no point to ask a dentist.

  11. Ben Says:

    Thanks, your blog is an inspiration. I too felt terrible after having my amalgam fillings removed and replaced. I’m also going to buy a drill and slowly, carefully, painstakingly but surely take them out. I’ll let you know how it goes.

  12. Nicole Says:

    I will be very interested in hearing about it if you go through with it. I never finished taking mine out and had to postpone the whole project. But it’s years later and I’m still having symptoms from the plastic, so I’m still determined to take them out in the future. If you can get yours out, good for you!

  13. RobB Says:

    Just go to the dentist. Tell him you have had adverse symptoms with the plastic filling and you want to get it replaced with another composite. All composites are made from different materials, so they will be obliged. Then when they remove the old filling, just get up and say you changed your mind, or make an excuse not to go ahead with another filling. There’s no way you can remove it yourself. No need to ruin your life because you don’t want to lie to the dentist. Heck, the dentist has lied to you anyway, so don’t feel bad about it. Just make sure to say you don’t want to be under anaesthetic when he removes the filling, that way you will have your wits about you when you get up and walk out. I got mine out, and told her just to use a temporary filling while I decide on a material. That’s because I kinda wanted the temp filling, but its fallen out now. I don’t intend to get a new filling again, ever.

  14. RobB Says:

    Also, because each composite comes with different shades of white to match the colour of your teeth, you will find it very difficult to distinguish it from your natural tooth. The dentist told me she can only tell by the different effects moisture has on the filling to natural teeth. So she needed to wet the surface and then drill. Its quite a laborious and finnicky procedure. Best to find a dentist that has a decent temperament.

  15. Ben Says:

    Ok thanks, just out of interest where did you get your drill/burs from and is there any brand or type/thickness you’d recommend? Cheers, Ben

  16. Anonymous Says:

    This is an absolutely incredible issue. i have 9 very small mercury fillings from when I was 12. I have been battling high blood pressure for most of my adult life. I am now 47. I have been eating organic fruits and vegetables only for two years and aside from the BP feel great. I have asked over 50 dentists in the US and abroad to remove my filling and not to refill. I have been denied everywhere being told that it would not be ethical. As for fooling the dentist and leaving before he refills, this is flawed. You see the dentist will tear into your healthy tooth to create an even bigger hole to accommodate the next filling. I do not want this.

    The dentists are doing exactly what they are told / programmed to do from gov departments. The organic dental filling market remains empty even though there have been breakthrough’s over the past 25 years.

    Calcium Hydroxy Appetite CHA is primarily what are teeth are made of. In Japan in the 90s they developed a synthetic of CHA and used it for dental fillings. After 6 months the CHA fused with the tooth growing together with it. One would not even know they had a filling installed. Websites and info taken down 2012. Simply put – Some powerful people want continued toxic / medical mouth issues to keep humans stressed.

    No cancer cure STILL??? Way to much money in pretending to look for a cure. The same drugs re-branded to fight cancer today were the same ones used 35 years ago. Watch “Burzynski Cancer Is Serious Business” the documentary.

    Organic dental fillings are not allowed into the market because chemical companies with toxic bonding agents and plastic resins can pay the millions for clinical trials and campaign funding support to those in charge.

    We NEED a new form of teeth procedures based on nutrition and the healing of holes from removed fillings that do not get re-filled by the next generation of toxic plastics.

    Humanity needs to demand a new way!

    We need an end to business as usual in western the world. It’s toxic!

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